Bird flu an apparent US phenomenon?
How is it Turkey and now Brazil are now importing huge numbers of eggs?
In another hit to American farmers and agriculture, Brazil is now doubling exports of eggs to the USA. So this government is suffocating / killing chickens by the 10s of millions and on the other hand importing eggs from foreign farmers that are not wiping out their flocks. Is this bird flu only in the USA? No, other countries use common sense, as usual the “experts” here in the states are truly clueless.
The Trump administration announced last month plans to boost egg imports to as many as 100 million as part of the government’s strategy to contain the outbreak and bring down prices.
A better idea would be to stop killing 10’s of thousands of chicken because a few are sick. Their would be survivors and those should be bred to start gaining herd immunity. Instead the brain trust here in the states kills all chickens and we have these cycles of bird flu that get worse each and every time.
The outbreak in poultry began in 2022 and has wiped out about 162 million chickens, turkeys and other birds, according to U.S. data. A surge in recent infections is fueling egg shortages.
"The one we're battling today is unique," said David Swayne, former director of the Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory at the USDA's Agricultural Research Service and a leading national expert in avian influenza.
"It’s not saying for sure there’s gonna be a pandemic" of H5N1, Swayne said, "but it’s saying the more human infections, the spreading into multiple mammal species is concerning."
For Herbruck, it feels like war. Ten months after Herbruck's Poultry Ranch was hit, the company is still rebuilding its flocks and rehired most of the 400 workers it laid off.
One egg farms story on their experience with bird flu and the devastation of killing millions of birds.
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2025/01/fsa-identifies-main-hazards-from-imported-egg-products/
This is a United Kingdom link, I would venture to wager the same hazards would apply to imported eggs to the USA.
Of course domestic egg production can have the same problems they are less likely due to US inspection systems within the agriculture system here in the USA. We have no idea how good the records or inspections are in foreign countries.
The risk profile identifies the main hazards associated with shell eggs and egg products imported into the United Kingdom. It covers liquid, dry, cooked, and preserved egg products.
Through expert judgement and inclusion criteria, 22 hazards were shortlisted. Microbiological hazards included Campylobacter, Listeria monocytogenes, and non-typhoidal Salmonella, such as Salmonella Enteritidis and Salmonella Typhimurium.
Chemical hazards were agricultural contaminants (aflatoxins, ochratoxin A, pyrrolizidine alkaloids), biocides (fipronil, chlorate), environmental contaminants (persistent organic pollutants, melamine, metals), and various pesticides, veterinary medicinal products, and feed additives.
WE desperately need country of origin labeling. We need to have the option of purchasing or not purchasing foreign grown products. Some countries are more stringent than others. The EU for example bans many of the chemicals used in food reduction here. South American countries are less stringent.
Lacking COOL the only way we can even come close to protecting our selves from thee hazards is to buy from a local farmer. While still not 100% its closer to that 100% than any other producer.
Compensation for Culling:
When birds are euthanized due to bird flu outbreaks, the USDA pays farmers for every live bird that needs to be depopulated.
The USDA is currently compensating egg producers for euthanizing live birds but not dead birds in their flock. This is a huge hit financially if your flock gets bird flu. It can cost into the millions in losses. You loose the birds, the use of the facility, then you have to sanitize the house and equipment. Only then can you begin the 20 week growing process to get the hens back to producing.
WE now have farmers demanding chicken vaccinations. This despite the fact these vaccines have ZERO long term studies on the chickens or the humans that consume them or their products.
Would a vaccine affect the eggs, the chicken and would the vaccine transmit such problems to humans? I have no idea, however I do know that my egg customers are allergic to soy and I fill a niche market feeding my chickens soy free feed. So it only makes sense that a vaccines especially the mRNA gene therapy vaccines would transfer to humans. I for one am not willing to find out.
I am currently setting up to breed and hatch my own chickens in the future. More than likely the government at some point will require these vaccines.
The problem with mass vaccination
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1289310/
These vaccines are driving the virus to mutate into a more virulent and deadly virus. Even the WHO is clearly stating that fact.
Inappropriate use of vaccination in poultry to try to prevent the spread of bird flu has become part of the problem and has serious human health implications, officials of the World Health Organization warned this week.
“Vaccination can sometimes cause silent transmission of infection from asymptomatic birds. Mass vaccination programmes entail people tramping around the countryside from farm to farm and they can spread the disease with them. The first response must be culling,” said Peter Cordingley, WHO's spokesman in Manila.
Chicks will be vaccinated at Dutch hatcheries before being moved to laying farms, with eggs sold only within the Netherlands. The program will run until early 2027.
These vaccination programs result in import and export bans. France vaccinated all ducks in 2023 and that resulted in bans for French ducks.
We are between a rock and a hard place. We do not want to export or import sick livestock however we also do not want to import vaccinated with who knows what livestock. The bird flu will pass - it always has. Once you start a vaccination program it stays in the livestock and its offspring forever polluting the gene pool.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm7d2yv878o
Recent work by researchers from the UK's Royal Veterinary College and institutions in China found possible evidence that they may be linked to changes in how the virus evolves.
They carried out genetic analysis of avian flu samples collected from wild birds and farmed poultry between 1996 and 2023.
While they found that infections occurred more often in unvaccinated birds, they also found that in countries with high vaccination rates, there was a higher rate of change in the virus itself.
They said such evolution could, in theory, lead to vaccines needing to be updated frequently to remain effective and to the virus spilling over into unvaccinated populations. They acknowledged that more research was needed to establish whether there was a direct causal link between vaccination and virus evolution.
This is the real problem, these vaccination programs as stated above could very well drive the virus to be more virulent and deadly. This has been known for decades so why the current crop of scientist want to find out again is beyond comprehension. Its an idea that could result in disaster.
Chicken and eggs are a mainstay food, what happens if these vaccines do just that? Those food could become expensive, a rarity or non existent. Is that the plan? since they know this has happened in the past with Merek’s disease and that vaccination program one has to lean towards that ‘s the plan
The Marek’s Vaccine Fiasco
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous
2015, back when PBS did not shill for pharma.
The deadliest strains of viruses often take care of themselves — they flare up and then die out. This is because they are so good at destroying cells and causing illness that they ultimately kill their host before they have time to spread.
But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds.
In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent.
A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual.
It’s important to note childhood vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, rubella and smallpox aren’t leaky; they are considered “perfect” vaccines. As such, they are in no way in danger of falling prey to this phenomenon.
But the results do raise the questions for some human vaccines that are leaky – such as malaria, and other agricultural vaccines, such as the one being used against avian influenza, or bird flu.
Keep in mind this was written in 2015. We now have a measles out break that while not now more virulent it seems to possibly be more deadly. They already knew bird flu vaccines were leaky in 2015. We are now at the 10 year mark. These new vaccines that are being talked about are recently discovered or worked on vaccines. It take time to confirm that a vaccine is leaky - about 10 years. So their is no way these vaccines are known not to be leaky.
Going forward with these as I say above could be disastrous not just for chicken but humanity. These people have a god complex, a greatness complex, in which they are so great at their job their is no way they could be wrong. They are playing god and will get swatted down. Nature has a way of proving man wrong
In this interview Del Bigtree and Dr Peter McCullough discuss the origins of this bird flu.
https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/h5n1s-lab-link-dr-mccullough-exposes-shocking-origins/
On January 28th 2025 I speculated just this. Our government is up past its eyeballs in gain of Function research. Between government labs and government funded private labs unless people start going to jail for crimes against humanity for doing this this sick people will continue until they whip something up that will kill over 50% of us.
The latest poultry outbreak confirmation from the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) includes a detection in Georgia at a broiler farm that houses 45,500 birds in Elbert County, located in the northeastern part of the state.
This outbreak is 70 miles from Georgia poultry lab. With what is now being released on C-19 and the lab leak one has to wonder what if anything is a connection to this lab and the outbreak. We are not dealing with normal caring people that care about humanity. These are some sick people. Did they release a bird flu that they were preforming gain of function on that can now infect cattle and humans? Who knows? but we do know this is the first time this has happened with bird flu. I have no proof but at this point we have to start laying possibilities out on the table.
Eggs, what's going on?
If you have been to the grocery store in the last 6 months you have seen eggs are more than double just a few years ago. $0.99 per dozen are the days of yesteryear. $1.99 per dozen are a couple of years ago, $2.50 was 2024 and now we are at $4.60. These are factory run of the mill mass produced white eggs. Specialty eggs are now $7.00 to $10.00 around h…
https://unitedegg.com/facts-stats/ Interesting site with loads of information on eggs.
U.S. Egg Production and Hen Population
U.S. table egg production totaled 92.6 billion in 2022, a 3% decrease from 2021. The U.S. had 308 million commercial laying hens at the end of 2022, down 4.5% from 2021. The daily rate of lay averaged 82 eggs per 100 layers in 2022. On average, each laying hen produces 300 eggs per year. The increased productivity of hens – due to improved health and disease prevention, nutrition, genetics, and flock management – is demonstrated in the graph to the right.
This is pretty amazing, In the early 1980’s when I first started raising layer hens 3-4 eggs per week was the norm. 150-210 While that still is close for heritage breeds the hybrids are simply amazing at 5-6 per week. The downside on hybrids are their productive life span and life span in general is 2-3 years vs 5-7 years for heritage breeds. After year 3 even the heritage slow down but they are still out scratching around.
These hybrids are combination of heritage breeds. This is why we need to keep heritage breeds around we just may need the genetics in the future.
With all that is going on that is distracting us and focusing us on minutia many of us are missing the real issues going on right in front of us. Food availability, food safety, the health effects of food on our bodies should be an over riding concern. Without healthy food, without our health nothing else matters. Cheap food is not cheap, its the most expensive food we can purchase. Having health issues like diabetes, arthritis, gut issues and other health issues that require medical care will far exceed any money one saves on cheap food.
Buying from a local farmer that feeds animals healthy food is going to cost more, but $125.00 for a simple office visit to a DR. buys a lot of farm fresh eggs and meat. It also helps that farmer make a living and maybe his children when they see money can be made will carry on this way of growing food into the future.
My dad was the chicken business. Back i.n the 50’s and 60’s every farmer had chickens. We didn’t cram thousands and thousands of birds into huge buildings. Concentration of birds is where the problem is and the cat is out of the bag. At this point vaccines will be used. It’s up to the public to insist that they be used safely.
Nope just the libtards not wanting people living for themselves or off the land and doing for themselves without them they can’t handle it